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In October Melanie Nelson from Blogging Basics 101 wrote a few posts at BloggingTips (paid posts). In one of our email conversations she mentioned that she likes to retain full rights of any post she writes so that she can post it elsewhere on the web. This was something I was strongly against as I want all posts on BloggingTips to be original and I don’t want content duplicated elsewhere on the web.

Recently I noticed Melanie wrote a good post on her blog entitled Blog Design: Keep It Clutter-Free and User-Friendly. At the end of the post was a small note to say that ‘This post was cross-posted at BlogHer.com.’

I know some bloggers do want to retain full rights of articles they write but in my opinion, when you write an article for another blog, be it a guest post or a paid gig, the article belongs to the blog you are writing on. Sure you can reproduce parts of the article yourself on your own blog if you are referring to it but I don’t think you should be reproducing it elsewhere (Just to clarify, my intention here is not to criticize Melanie in any shape or form. She was completely up front about cross posting from our first conversations and wasn’t hiding anything. I just happen to have a different opinion from Melanie on this subject so I thought it would be an interesting topic to discuss). 🙂

Double Posting Views

Yesterday I asked forum members what they thought about double posting. It’s clear that this is a topic which divides opinions. It’s also clear that there are a lot of grey areas with this issue.

  • David Anderson hit the nail in the head when he said :

    It does need to be discussed and agreed upon up front.

    I think this is one of the best things to remember. Any misunderstandings can be avoided if the issue is discussed before the blogger starts writing for the blog. If the blog owner objects to posts published on their blog being published elsewhere then they should be clear about this (I have a note about it in my author information page).

    David also noted that under UK Copyright Law :

    Normally the individual or collective who authored the work will exclusively own the work. However, if a work is produced as part of employment then it will normally belong to the person/company who hired the individual.

    Freelance or commissioned work will usually belong to the author of the work, unless there is an agreement to the contrary, (i.e. in a contract for service).

    The above suggests that when someone is paid to write content the work belongs to the company however the word normally indicates that this is not always black or white.

  • Rarst believes that :

    From copyright point of few this is not the case (as far as I know). For example this answer in forum doesn’t belong to you, it belongs to me because I wrote it. If I make comment in blog it belongs to me as well, unless blog has visible license agreement to agree for posting comments.

    It may not seem right to blog owners but author is author, as long as there are no additional rules everyone agreed to.

    I have to agree with Rarst on this though I believe leaving comments on blogs and forums is a slightly different issue from writing on other blogs.

  • Slee thinks that :

    I would agree that the site you are writing the article for should have copyright on the article unless explicitily stated.

Sarah brought up an interesting point which I hadn’t originally thought of :

By saying that you’re saying that if you wrote a guest post for another site that site would have full rights on that article and could do what they wanted with it, eg sell it on to perhaps a number of people wanting to add the article into a PLR pack.

Or perhaps, if you wrote say a number of posts, the site owner could take your posts and repackage them into an eBook and not have to pay you a penny on the sales.

I realise this is above what Kevin is asking, but if copyright was as you stated, that’s what could happen, which is not right.

There’s a difference between copyright and an exclusive license. Giving the first away would lose all control on your work, whereas the second means your client gets what they want without you losing your rights to ownership. Both meet the requirement of writing for one site and not reposting it elsewhere.

I think this is an issue which will cause a lot more arguments than the double posting issue as post exclusivity is something which many blog owners are up front about. The question of whether the blog post will be included in an ebook, magazine or book is not discussed as frequently.

It raises some questions :

  • Do guest posters have the same right as paid posters?
  • Does the blog owner have the right to reproduce a bloggers article without prior consent?

Again, I think this brings us back to David Andersons original point that these issues need to be discussed and agreed up front. Unfortunately, this doesn’t always happen.

A few years ago a popular poker magazine contacted me to tell me that they had used a few of my articles and forum posts in their magazine. I wasn’t too concerned as they linked to my poker forum however they didn’t ask me up front, they simply added it and then contacted me afterwards to tell me about it. On a few occasions they also reproduced members posts without their consent. I queried this and they promised that the members would be sent a copy of the magazine but they never produced the goods. This was when I first realised that large online websites and offline magazines are sometimes the worst offenders when it comes to reproducing content without consent.

Overview

It’s clear that many bloggers and blog owners have different opinions about who owns a post and whether the post can be republished elsewhere.

What do you think about double posting? Do you think guest posters should be allowed to post the article on their own blog? Do bloggers give up the right to content if they are paid for writing the article?

Drop by the forums and let us know what you think 🙂

* Forum member Jeff Chandler has also posted a poll over at Performancing on whether Guest Bloggers Should Be Able To Republish The Same Post To Multiple Blogs?. So far 14% say Yes and 79% say no. I recommend checking it out 🙂

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Kevin Muldoon is a professional blogger with a love of travel. He writes regularly about topics such as WordPress, Blogging, Productivity and Social Media on his personal blog and provides support to bloggers at Rise Forums. He can also be found on Twitter @KevinMuldoon and .

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How to Leave Your Blogging Struggles Behind

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Exit your comfort zone on a daily basis.

Leave blogging struggles behind.

I love blogging. Blogging feels fun, freeing and quite easy to me. But sometimes, on this journey, my feelings change a bit. Sometimes, blogging feels uncomfortable and I nudge into resistance. Fear rears its head. Mental blocks arise. Sometimes I fear running out of time or perhaps I fear wasting my time. In these moments, I have 2 choices: remain in my fear-filled comfort zone or leave my comfort zone.

I left most of my blogging struggles behind because I choose to leave my comfort zone on a regular basis. Traffic, profits, and all manner of sweet blogging success greet bloggers who feel their fears, leave their comfort zones and do the blogging task, anyway.

What Is Blogging Struggle?

Blogging struggle is doing things or not doing things based on fear. Fear drives you. You blog from a fear-based, scared energy. You avoid traffic and profit and success boosting activities because you fear the opportunities. Example; you struggle horribly to make money and drive blog traffic. I advise to begin generous, relaxed, enjoyable guest posting, to help you increase traffic and profits and success. The split second you THINK about guest posting, you feel a range of emotions, from excitement, to happiness, then, from terror, to anxiety, to a general fear of wasting your time.

If 2 people visit your blog daily and you see zero blogging profits now, and you say “no” to guest posting because of some fears, you will likely struggle horribly, because you avoided guest posting to stay in your comfort zone of fear.

Traffic and profits sit on the other side of fear, outside of your comfort zone. No way around that one. We all pay a fear tuition doing freeing, success-promoting, uncomfortable things. I remember when Zac invited me to guest post on Blogging Tips. Fear invaded my mind. Would he reject my posts? How about if he hated my posts? What if I wasted my time? Would I be able to follow all the rules? Would he criticize me? Of course Zac is the nicest, kindest, friendliest iconic blogger on earth. He REALLY is, guys. He is an exceptional human being. But fear is irrational, distorting the truths of love, harmony and abundance.

I had to feel all those scary, intense fears, and keep blogging anyway, to write and publish my first few guest posts here. 800 plus guest posts later, I am still going strong. Why? I left my comfort zone those first few times and instantly began leaving blogging struggles behind.

Exit your comfort zone every single day. Do something that scares you. Do something that tests your limits. Publish a 4 paragraph long comment on a top blog, even if you fear:

  • nobody is listening
  • nobody is reading comments
  • nobody will click through to your blog
  • you are wasting your time
  • the comment won’t get published

This happened to me recently. I spent 15 minutes writing a 9 paragraph comment on Pro Blogger. But Disqus suffered some connection problems and prevented me from publishing the comment. I feared I wasted 15 minutes. But after feeling and releasing the emotion, I let it go, moved on, and devoted 10 minutes to writing and publishing the comment later in the day, when Disqus was working.

Struggles happen if you choose to blog mainly from fear.

Success happens when you nudge into these fears, toward your blogging fun, taking inspired but uncomfortable action on a daily basis.

Go for it!

Exit your comfort zone.

Leave your blogging struggles behind…for good.

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Focus on Things More to Leverage Your Blog Quickly

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Heresy!

What is the relationships guy talking about?

Blogging is a people business, right?

Blogging is one part people and one part things. Seriously. I learned this recently because if you depend 100% on people to build your blogging success you cannot possibly scale to massive levels. But if you do focus on things more, like email lists, and blogging platforms, you become less dependent on people, and also, your leveraging potential goes through the roof.

Email List Example

Let’s look at the famous email list. It is a thing. After you publish a blog post, you write a few words, include a link to your latest post, and after clicking a button, email the post to 10, 100, or 10,000 people….or more people. In a split second, you reach 10,000 human beings. Using a thing helps you leverage your presence like mad. Awesome.

But imagine if you only reached 10,000 people by mentioning people in your recent post, and tagging them on social media. Humanly impossible, of course. Let’s say you depend on even, 50 people, to promote your blog post, by mentioning them and tagging them. Linking to and tagging 50 bloggers takes a lotta time. Minimum, even for a 700 word post, it takes 90 minutes to 2 hours – or longer – to go the tagging and mentioning route. Do you see the problem of depending 100% on people and friendships to build blog? You run out of time. Meanwhile, sending your post to 50 email subscribers takes 3 minutes to send the email and literally, a split second to actually publish the email, at the click of a button.

Using Things Effectively Leverages Your Presence

Using email lists, blogging platforms for guest posting and certain tools leverages your presence fast because eventually, you run out of time trying to leverage your presence solely based on grabbing the attention of fellow bloggers. Plus you are at the mercy of humans, and building a fear-based attachment to fellow humans leads to misery because humans change, humans get too busy to promote you, and humans unfriend other humans.

I am for making blogging a people and things business. I have learned this lesson the hard way over the prior 2 months. Befriend people and enjoy the process, but if you want to leverage massively and sprint up the exposure ladder, tap into the convenience of technology by using things to reach more people fast.

At the end of the day, it is about helping more people freely. Use things – aka technology aka inanimate objects – to help people more freely and to help more people, too.

Exit Human-Obsessed and Things-Resistant Blogging Circles

I used to be part of blogging circles 100% reliant – virtually – on human beings, and heavily resistant to things. But none of these bloggers leveraged to big time, super successful levels. These bloggers railed against bots and joked of not using or being a blogging cyborg. All seemed funny. But on agreeing and following their advice I soon learned how incredibly difficult it becomes to grow a successful blog being 100% attached to and dependent on human beings to build the blog. Humans change. Things do not. Plus you cannot leverage humans like you leverage things.

While all these folks complained about emails and automating, they played so small that reaching next level success proved to be 100% impossible. But, I observed how using things like systems and tools will help you reach huge, targeted groups of people in minutes or even seconds. See the email example above.

Instead of complaining about or resisting tech, why not use things to make life easier, to leverage your presence quickly and to reach a huge, targeted group of human beings so you succeed and so people get what they want?

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Long Term Blogging Success: Co-Creation Not Manipulation

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Every blogger who succeeds over the long haul did so through co-creation.

Two blogger met. Two people make friends. Both friends help each other out, for a co-creation, and see greater success due to the co-creation.

I have seen this happen so much in my blogging life over the past 10 years. I befriended Zac many years ago. He invited me to guest post on Blogging Tips. Years later, all the co-creating I did through 800 plus guest posts helped:

  • increase my blog traffic
  • increase my blogging profits
  • increase my DA
  • increase my brand exposure

Think about it guys; all top bloggers make friends with other bloggers, both parties help each other, and we all win. You win, I win, and our fellow bloggers win.

No Manipulation

You will never create long-term blogging success by trying to manipulate people through fear, smoke, mirrors and other silly tactics, because doing so is like building your blogging business on a house of cards. Even the smallest breeze of resistance knocks down the cards, and your blogging business with it. Bad idea.

What do I mean by manipulation? Imagine you write a blog post filled with bold promises of how to make 6 figures a year, telling bloggers you know the way. You share no specific strategies for making 6 figures. Nope. But you do make big, hyped up claims, filling the 1000 word post with some hefty, silly promises. What are you trying to do? Manipulate humans into following your blog, buying your stuff and giving you money. Your intent is to use fear, greed and desperation to GET money from people. Using fear manipulates people into doing what they do not want to do, for a temporary income boost, for you. But again, imagine a house of cards. A barely detectable breeze knocks down the house, and a seemingly tiny detail knocks down and destroys your blogging business.

When I was a new blogger a LONG time ago, one blogger who claimed to be a 6 figure earner admitted he was lying. He disappeared instantly. His blogging business died because he lied about making 6 figures, because he wanted to manipulate people into giving him money.

Co-Creating Benefits All over the Long Haul

If you guest post on other blogs, you and fellow bloggers create helpful content that promotes lasting success. Imagine building a house on a rock solid foundation, on a granite mountain. Wow! That is a serious foundation. Nothing moves that home. Even a decent earthquake barely makes the house shake. This is what it’s like to co-create content with fellow bloggers.

You both create something together – through a shared post and shared domain name – that is good, and leads to something good and beneficial. Fear and manipulation? No involvement in this process. Love and abundance and service, this is it, and this is why you become successful in building a rock solid foundation, and, in becoming a pro blogger.

How Can You Co-Create?

A few ideas:

  • guest post on your blog
  • guest post on other blogs
  • create joint videos
  • create joint podcasts
  • create joint business ventures

Ultimately, you can co-create with fellow bloggers in countless ways. Being creative is your only requirement.

Think of how the co-creating benefits all of humanity. Think of all the people you can help through your co-creation. Put people ahead of your immediate needs and also, bring other bloggers on board to see the greatest impact over the long haul.

Be generous, help people, make friends and gain exposure. Build a viable, long term, meaningful blogging business. Observe manipulative, flash in the pan bloggers come and go. I have seen thousands of these types die a quick death, like moths flying too close to the flame-temptation of quick, easy riches.

Co-create to out last virtually everybody else in your blogging niche.

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