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In October Melanie Nelson from Blogging Basics 101 wrote a few posts at BloggingTips (paid posts). In one of our email conversations she mentioned that she likes to retain full rights of any post she writes so that she can post it elsewhere on the web. This was something I was strongly against as I want all posts on BloggingTips to be original and I don’t want content duplicated elsewhere on the web.

Recently I noticed Melanie wrote a good post on her blog entitled Blog Design: Keep It Clutter-Free and User-Friendly. At the end of the post was a small note to say that ‘This post was cross-posted at BlogHer.com.’

I know some bloggers do want to retain full rights of articles they write but in my opinion, when you write an article for another blog, be it a guest post or a paid gig, the article belongs to the blog you are writing on. Sure you can reproduce parts of the article yourself on your own blog if you are referring to it but I don’t think you should be reproducing it elsewhere (Just to clarify, my intention here is not to criticize Melanie in any shape or form. She was completely up front about cross posting from our first conversations and wasn’t hiding anything. I just happen to have a different opinion from Melanie on this subject so I thought it would be an interesting topic to discuss). 🙂

Double Posting Views

Yesterday I asked forum members what they thought about double posting. It’s clear that this is a topic which divides opinions. It’s also clear that there are a lot of grey areas with this issue.

  • David Anderson hit the nail in the head when he said :

    It does need to be discussed and agreed upon up front.

    I think this is one of the best things to remember. Any misunderstandings can be avoided if the issue is discussed before the blogger starts writing for the blog. If the blog owner objects to posts published on their blog being published elsewhere then they should be clear about this (I have a note about it in my author information page).

    David also noted that under UK Copyright Law :

    Normally the individual or collective who authored the work will exclusively own the work. However, if a work is produced as part of employment then it will normally belong to the person/company who hired the individual.

    Freelance or commissioned work will usually belong to the author of the work, unless there is an agreement to the contrary, (i.e. in a contract for service).

    The above suggests that when someone is paid to write content the work belongs to the company however the word normally indicates that this is not always black or white.

  • Rarst believes that :

    From copyright point of few this is not the case (as far as I know). For example this answer in forum doesn’t belong to you, it belongs to me because I wrote it. If I make comment in blog it belongs to me as well, unless blog has visible license agreement to agree for posting comments.

    It may not seem right to blog owners but author is author, as long as there are no additional rules everyone agreed to.

    I have to agree with Rarst on this though I believe leaving comments on blogs and forums is a slightly different issue from writing on other blogs.

  • Slee thinks that :

    I would agree that the site you are writing the article for should have copyright on the article unless explicitily stated.

Sarah brought up an interesting point which I hadn’t originally thought of :

By saying that you’re saying that if you wrote a guest post for another site that site would have full rights on that article and could do what they wanted with it, eg sell it on to perhaps a number of people wanting to add the article into a PLR pack.

Or perhaps, if you wrote say a number of posts, the site owner could take your posts and repackage them into an eBook and not have to pay you a penny on the sales.

I realise this is above what Kevin is asking, but if copyright was as you stated, that’s what could happen, which is not right.

There’s a difference between copyright and an exclusive license. Giving the first away would lose all control on your work, whereas the second means your client gets what they want without you losing your rights to ownership. Both meet the requirement of writing for one site and not reposting it elsewhere.

I think this is an issue which will cause a lot more arguments than the double posting issue as post exclusivity is something which many blog owners are up front about. The question of whether the blog post will be included in an ebook, magazine or book is not discussed as frequently.

It raises some questions :

  • Do guest posters have the same right as paid posters?
  • Does the blog owner have the right to reproduce a bloggers article without prior consent?

Again, I think this brings us back to David Andersons original point that these issues need to be discussed and agreed up front. Unfortunately, this doesn’t always happen.

A few years ago a popular poker magazine contacted me to tell me that they had used a few of my articles and forum posts in their magazine. I wasn’t too concerned as they linked to my poker forum however they didn’t ask me up front, they simply added it and then contacted me afterwards to tell me about it. On a few occasions they also reproduced members posts without their consent. I queried this and they promised that the members would be sent a copy of the magazine but they never produced the goods. This was when I first realised that large online websites and offline magazines are sometimes the worst offenders when it comes to reproducing content without consent.

Overview

It’s clear that many bloggers and blog owners have different opinions about who owns a post and whether the post can be republished elsewhere.

What do you think about double posting? Do you think guest posters should be allowed to post the article on their own blog? Do bloggers give up the right to content if they are paid for writing the article?

Drop by the forums and let us know what you think 🙂

* Forum member Jeff Chandler has also posted a poll over at Performancing on whether Guest Bloggers Should Be Able To Republish The Same Post To Multiple Blogs?. So far 14% say Yes and 79% say no. I recommend checking it out 🙂

Kevin Muldoon is a professional blogger with a love of travel. He writes regularly about topics such as WordPress, Blogging, Productivity and Social Media on his personal blog and provides support to bloggers at Rise Forums. He can also be found on Twitter @KevinMuldoon and .

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3 Tips for Bonding with Blogging Influencers

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Forget traditional influencer marketing. We want to go deeper.

Bloggers teach influencer marketing from a less genuine space sometimes. Imagine learning how to try to get someone to do something for you. Manipulation marketing. Fear-based marketing. Problems arise; spam folders become your landing spot. I observe a decent percentage of influencer marketing emails in my spam folder because fear-pitches get labeled as spam and become spam, 100% of the time.

What is the solution? Learn how to bond with blogging influencers.

I remember people who befriend me. I admire people who endorse me or promote me. I appreciate people who buy my course or eBooks. I love people who generously help me for months. Guess what? Bonding with established bloggers influences the influencers. I do stuff for dear blogging friends I do not do for anybody else. If a friend sends me a guest post and their writing is tight, I place it. Even if said post spans 1000 words or more – my minimum count is 600 – I place it without hesitating. Friends found my heart. Friends influenced me through kindness and generosity. I am largely putty in their blogging hands.

Instead of trying to manipulate a successful stranger, bond with a friend. Change your approach to influencer marketing. Make friends. Help without asking. In time, blogging bonds form organically. If you practice writing, the world becomes your oyster because influencers take you to new levels of success, without you even asking.

Follow these tips to bond with influencers.

1: Buy a Resource

The best way to bond with an influencer is to get inside their heads.

Influential bloggers had to influence influential bloggers on the way up to become influential. Invest in a resource like my influential blogger eBook to learn how influencers do it. Speak their language. Connect. Take their viewpoint. Learn how to be influential yourself.

When you discover how to be influential through my resource you in essence, learn how to influence, influencers, by bonding with these pros.

2: Spend a Few Months Giving Not Asking

Bloggers I remember, then befriend, spend at least a few months giving and not asking. Someone buys my course, publishes 10 comments on my blog, and retweets my posts 10 or 20 times during a 3 month period. These people pop up on my radar screen because they gave and asked for nothing. Bonds form. Friendships develop.

Retweet fellow bloggers. Help them. Feature fellow bloggers. Open your blog to guest posting. Guest post on other blogs. Comment genuinely on blogs. Buy products.

Ask for nothing, for at least 3-4 months. Allow friendships to form organically. Blogging friends help each other because blogging friends trust each other. Influential bloggers fall into this helping lot too, as you generously serve them, ask for nothing and polish your writing skills. I gained more endorsements from pros by being generous than through any other method. Help influential bloggers. Ask for nothing. Influential bloggers help you without you asking for a darn thing.

3: Never Rush the Process

Some blogger friend requested me on Facebook a few moments ago. I scanned my messages to see his business pitch in the “other” folder. He simply rushed the process of pitching an established blogger. I appreciate the friend request but pitching your business before generously helping me ensures I ignore all future messages. He rushed the process so I let him go.

Perhaps he smartens up and begins helping me generously without asking for anything. After a few months of helping me and asking for nothing, we bond. We become friends. From there, the opportunities are limitless. Even if I do not use his service, if he has skills and a reputable business model I can share his services with my readers.

Good things take some time. Never rush the bonding process.

Allow bonds to form organically to do influencer marketing right.

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How Do Blogging and Fitness Relate?

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I spend 3 hours daily honing my mental and physical fitness.

In truth, you can and will succeed online following simple fundamentals from a generous, detached energy. No need to be fit to go full time blogging. But if you feel bad because your body feels bad and your mind fears losing it all, have you succeeded? I do not believe so.

I wrote an eBook sharing my daily regimen to explain what many of you readers want to know: how do I do it all? I am no blogging god. I am just human. But I write and connect quite a bit. People wish to know how I wrote 100 plus eBooks in addition to all the other stuff I do while circling the globe. Well, blogging and fitness are 2 peas in a pod for me. Both play a big role if you desiring leveling up and feeling good predominantly as you enjoy the ride.

Blogging and Fitness

Let’s say you wake up on a Monday morning as a full time employee who blogs part time. Feeling terrible and dreading work, why write and publish a post? Too busy. Do it later. Put off the post until tonight. But you feel too tired that night. Repeat this cycle for 3 months. 90 days passed. Still no blog post. Why? You filled your mind with fear and pain. Manifesting as blogging loss, backburnering the post for 3 months indicates fear in mind. Why fear? 100% of the time, fear dominates minds of people who spend zero time on mental fitness, never meditating or doing deep yin yoga or observing their thoughts and feelings. Most of the time, these same folks dominated by their own fears never commit seriously to being physically fit through exercising.

Feel good by caring for your mind and body. Vibe higher than fears crippling most bloggers. Imagine the above scenario with one difference: you devote 1-2 hours daily exercising and raising your energy via mindset training. Devote 30 minutes to power walking and 30 minutes to deep yin yoga. On waking that Monday morning, either a blog post idea finds you and you write the post, or after a few uncomfortable moments and feelings, the idea flows to you and you write the post.

I cannot explain this process logically because it flows 100% emotionally, feelings-wise. Visualize yourself in moments you feel really good. All seems possible. Ideas flow to you. Opportunities flow to you. Why? Feeling good magnetizes you to freeing, success-promoting ideas. Being fit mentally and physically is the easiest way to feel good most of the time. Plus in those moments you feel bad mentally and physically, you face, feel and release the bad feelings, quickly, because you feel mentally and physically fit, predominantly.

Gratitude

Being fit naturally alerts you to the success-promoting idea of gratitude. Gratitude builds blogging success because seeing every penny of income, every blog comment and all interest in your blogging courses feels awesome to you. Feeling awesome inspires you to blog for years generously. Blogging generously for years makes you successful.

Corey at the Good Oil Marketing retweeted my blogging course recently. I feel grateful he spread the word for me considering he is a successful, high level marketer. I feel these feelings and build on my success because I feel grateful. I feel grateful because I trained my mind and body to feel good, through being fit daily, in order to tune into appreciation easily.

Get fit.

Don’t quit.

Be a successful blogger by being mentally and physically fit.

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Why Doing this Works Better than Asking for Business Referrals

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After I released my flagship eBook – How to Retire to a Life of Island Hopping through Smart Blogging – I noticed something neat. My sales increased 12 fold the day I published a guest post for a highly successful blogger.

Seeing this spike clued me in to the quickest, easiest way to increase business: help people for free. Being generous improves skills, increases exposure and expands your business. Greater traffic and profits follow generous bloggers because helping people for free helps you be skilled and see, two qualities in every prospering blogger who reaps sweet blogging profits.

A large set of bloggers goes in another direction. Some ask for business referrals from trusted blogging buddies to drum up business. Feel free to take this route but know referral fishing is an ineffective way to drive profits because of two clear reasons:

  • referral-seeking seems to be time-wasting
  • referral-seeking rarely inspires trusted bloggers to take clear, business-building action, for you

I know 20 plus web developers. A few trusted blogging web developer buddies have reached out to me, seeking referrals. Two issues arise:

  • the referral seeker has no idea if I know bloggers needing web development; non-targeted campaign
  • I already know 20 plus developers, trusted buddies all, so I could never choose one to refer to someone if 20 seem qualified

Top Bloggers Become Ruthlessly Effective with their Time

Versus seeking referral business by asking blogging buddies if they know someone requiring your service, spend 20 minutes to write and publish a quality guest post for a blogger in your business niche. Instead of pitching 1 human, show off your web development skills for free, via a guest post, for 1,000 people. Do you see what I mean? Leverage. Do not ask for business. Serve for business. Although time needs pass and generosity needs inclusion in blogging business-building, helping for free is the quickest, simplest way to increase blogging business because you reach large, targeted audiences of clients with your attention and energy versus asking 1 person for business in non-targeted, ineffective fashion.

12 Times Daily Sales

I recall the day vividly, 5 years ago. I created and launched Blogging From Paradise. Before writing 100 plus eBooks, I wrote one. I did drive some sales through my blog but guest posting woke me up; why not leverage my presence and grow business by helping people for free, via different platforms? Eye-opener for me. Instead of asking, I gave. How easy? Giving freely is the easiest way to get freely. I observed a 12 times daily sales eBook increase for good reason that day: helping people generously through sites other than your blog is a simple way to grow your blogging business.

The simplest, direct, effective way to grow your business is to help people for free. Asking for referrals leads to a client or customer here and there, but full time bloggers are not in the “here and there” business as far as growing your venture. Pro bloggers drive steady profits through their blog by being generous on their blog and on other platforms.

Be helpful for free. Publish posts. Submit guest posts. Run a podcast. Broadcast live on Facebook. Help people for free to help people for pay. Versus untargeted referral-seeking, this is the effective way to grow your blogging business from a generous, genuine energy.

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